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Do AI Detectors Actually Work? Arena Conversations With Pangram CEO Max Spero

Video von Arena auf YouTube: Can you tell whether a piece of writing came from a human, ChatGPT, Claude or Gemini? Peter Gostev talks with Max Spero, CEO of…

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Can you tell whether a piece of writing came from a human, ChatGPT, Claude or Gemini? Peter Gostev talks with Max Spero, CEO of Pangram Labs and one of TIME’s 100 most influential people in AI, about how AI text detection works—and why it takes more than spotting em dashes.



We go inside Pangram’s training process: synthetic mirrors, model-family fingerprints, AI-assisted writing, image detection and robustness against AI humanizers. Max also explains how the team chooses base models, finds difficult training examples and builds the data and infrastructure to keep up with new AI models.



Pangram is hiring:

https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/pangramlabs



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https://www.pangram.com/pangram-space



00:00 Meet Max Spero and why he built Pangram

01:11 Pangram’s approach: deep learning vs perplexity

02:52 Training data and synthetic mirrors

05:27 Identifying ChatGPT, Claude and Gemini

09:05 New models and signals beyond em dashes

12:15 Edited and AI-assisted writing

14:51 AI images, video and deepfakes

17:37 How Pangram trains its image detector

22:33 Model size, scaling and difficult examples

26:48 Humanizers and adversarial robustness

28:22 Choosing the right base model

33:53 Data quality, training pipelines and retraining

38:40 The promise and limits of small classifiers

43:11 What model fingerprints reveal in the wild

47:21 Hiring engineers and researchers at Pangram



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